Erni, skambinau Sergot. Patvirtino, kad vaziuoja su mumis.

Nu ka siek tiek naujienu:

Butina susipazinti : http://www.bds-field-target.de/wm2013/general.htm

Saudysime po 4 zmones, bet pradesime anksti 8:15 tai i lektuva turim speti sekmadieni jeigu viskas ok.

Tvarkarastis: http://www.bds-field-target.de/pdf/Time%20Schedule.pdf
Isankstinis brifingas: http://www.bds-field-target.de/pdf/BRIE ... DVANCE.pdf

Kadangi saudysime po 4 zmones grupeje ir tai uztruks gan ilgai galima uzsakyti "Lunch Packets" po 5EUR, nezinau kas cia bus, bet kazkas kuo galima bus uzkasti varzybu metu. Reikia uzsakyti isanksto kiek kas norit tu "lunchu" per diena ir kai atvyksime per registracija sumoketi - duos vaucherius kuriuos trasoje galima bus pakeisti i lunchus jeigu teisingai supratau.
Jiegu kas netaip pataisykite.
Uzsakyti lunchus reikia cia: http://www.bds-field-target.de/wm2013/rangefood.htm

As cia ant greicio perziurejau viska, jeigu kas dar ka idomaus perskaitysite - rasykite!!!

Рекомендую ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО прочитать брифинг:

Пункт 2.
Мишени стреляем слева направо, как указано в карточке участника. Время на стрельбу 3 минуты, как участник занял позицию. (Комментарий мой: И не важно в руках есть винтовка или нет). Запрещён поиск мишени до того как был запущен таймер, при помощи мишени, оптики и других технических средств. Результаты за дорожку записываются после 3 минут. Вся группа отвечает за соблюдением правил прохождения дорожек, если были нарушения, хоть у одного, то всем за дорожку записывают "0" (Комментарий мой: Групповая ответственность) Таймеры закреплены за дорожкой, переносить их не надо. Ноги стрелка НЕ ДОЛЖНЫ пересекать линию огня, но срез ствола должен быть за этой линией, а спусковой крючок до линии огня. На некоторых линиях (Комментарий мой: "А будут ли они отдельно отмечены?") требование про ноги стрелка соблюсти не возможно - это будет исключение, НО срез ствола должен быть за этой линией, а спусковой крючок до линии огня. За нарушение "0" для стрелка.

Пункт 3.
Сигнал прекращения огня один свисток. Винтовка должна быть разряжена выстрелом вперёд в землю. Два свистка разрешение огня. Свистки действуют ТОЛЬКО на той линии (Комментарий мой: не путать с дорожкой) на которой они прозвучали. Винтовки на дорожке находятся ТОЛЬКО стволом в сторону целей. Переноска оружия по территории стрельбища, между дорожками РАЗРЯЖЕНО, СТВОЛ ВВЕРХ, ВСТАВЛЕН ПРЕДОХРАНИТЕЛЬНЫЙ МАРКЕР или ОРУЖЕЙНЫЙ КЕЙС. (Комментарий мой: ВНИМАНИЕ! СТВОЛ ВВЕРХ) За нарушение правил безопасности - ДИСКВАЛИФИКАЦИЯ. (Комментарий мой: Думаю сразу, без предупреждений.) Пересекать линию огня для ремонта или замены мишеней могут только Маршал и Офицеры на линии.

Пункт 5.
Контроль оружия будет проводиться Стандартной Пулькой (Schultz Exact) (Комментарий мой: ВНИМАНИЕ! Именно Schultz Exact массой 0.547 грамма.) Энергия выстрела (Е0) меньше 16.3 Дж. (Комментарий мой: ВНИМАНИЕ! Используя пульки Schultz Exact массой 0.547 грамма максимальная скорость 244 м/с). Измерение скорости имеет верхний допуск 2 м/с. (Комментарий мой: Получается допустимая максимальная скорость 246 м/с. Стрелки ППП (пружинка) обратите на это особое внимание и про пульки и про скорость. На месте пилить пружину сложно.) Если у отдельных стрелков будет превышение скорости, то будет проведено взвешивание пулек и повторный тест скорости для исключения влияния массы пулек. ( Комментарий мой: Получается можно заранее предупредить об использовании другого вида пулек и провести тест со своими.) Допускается проведение выборочного контроля скорости, на протяжении всех соревнований. Если возникшую проблему не может решить Офицер на линии, то её решает Директор линии или его заместитель.

Пункты 1,4,6,7 просты и понятны.

Жду комментариев, повторяю почитайте ВНИМАТЕЛЬНО!

Mano supratimu ten neparasyta, kad galima bus tikrinti su savo kulkelemis - tiesiog jei virsys, tai pries tikrindami jie kulkele dar ir pasvers.

Mozet kto objasnit "zanial poziciju" - eto kinul tuda podusku, podosol k liniji s poduskoi, sel, dernul za veriovocku, podnial miseni, nazal taimer?
o blin slegka ne dochodit " Запрещён поиск мишени , при помощи мишени" -eto kak?

i gal pasidalinkit kas kiek uzsake lanchu
Aciu

Получается так... Так вроде было в Норвегии. Линас лучше знает.



Я ещё не думал...



Žr. apačioj ten viksta diskusija...

Ну, вот началась дисскусия.
Будем ждать результатов!

Hi All,

Thanks for the update, however we take issue with the rules that have been placed in the recent update:

1) Course layout

The update says there are 3 separate courses. However it is a core WFTF rule that the courses are alternating along the line. This is mandatory ! Why has this change not been discussed? I am sure it is too late to change, but we agreed these things for a reason, because it is possible for conditions to affect different areas different ways

WFTF Core Rule 2.1 : For the annual World Field Target Championship event this terrain should ideally allow for three courses of 25 lanes each with 2 targets to be erected per lane
(total of 50 targets per course). Lanes of these three courses must alternate (e.g.red/blue/green course) along the terrain.

2) Position

Also, the foot must not touch the firing line, but muzzle must be over? This is not possible for all shooting positions, and my own sitting position, with a short carbine, my foot is level with my muzzle. My foot cannot be behind the muzzle. Some shooters use "bull pup" rifles, very very short. These will muzzles will not be in front of the foot. This is why the WFTF rule was stated, because it is impossible for some rifles to have a muzzle over the line without the foot being over the line. Rule 2.6 which is a core WFTF rule says that the muzzle must be over, but the trigger behind it. Not the foot!

Why if it is so important to make up a new rule is it then not enforced on some positions?

An example of a bullpup showing how short they are.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d43/X ... yrcrop.jpg

An example of experienced BFTA shooters showing how the foot can not be behind the muzzle even sitting normally.

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w55/ ... e1feda.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w55/ ... a84bda.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w55/ ... 36becd.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w55/ ... 92cbcd.jpg

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Paul James, Springer World Champion

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w55/ ... cd2eb7.jpg

More from Norway...

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I have also included shots of Ian Taylor (World Champion) Andy Calpin (World Champion) Dan Eley (World Champion) and Scott Robinson (EFTA) all with muzzles very close to the foot, difficult to say how little muzzle would be over the line if the foot was behind it, perhaps none.

Do we tape paper tubes to the ends of our rifles to comply with this rule and make our muzzles longer or should we just stick to the WFTF rule, trigger behind, muzzle over?


3) Optical safety signal
Where can that be placed on spring rifles? Something in the muzzle means either the gun must be cocked, and worse the barrel is then not empty! This is more dangerous than an empty barrel. The ISSF have this stupid rule. It means people think a rifle is safe when something is in the barrel ! What is safe is never pointing the muzzle at someone and never assuming it is unloaded. Daystate rifles fire even if the breech is open ! Having springers with cocking levers open does not prove it is uncocked. We cannot leave springers 1/2 cocked walking around a course. My springer has no safety catch or a device to prevent the trigger being pulled when the cocking arm is lowered. If I place an object in my breech either the spring will be compressed over 3 days or the object crushed.

Does muzzle up at all times mean that the carry boxes will not be allowed on the course?

4) Power testing

Chronoing with one pellet type is not acceptable. Many rifles are not set up with Exacts. They can be setup for Exact Express RS at 16J and produce 17-18J with Exacts. Exact Express RS are 860 fps at 12ft-lb/16.3J. Because the pellet is not efficient when this is replaced with an Exact it could exit at 820fps and be over 12/16! Same problem with Exact Express. It is too late for people to change springer rifles to suit a pellet they never use. Pellet testing must be done with the pellet used, not one that people may not have ever used.

This is rule 1.1 of WFTF core rules. It's not 12ft-lb/16.3J with a certain pellet, it is 12ft-lb/16.3J with a pellet. Can we not test with the pellet people use if they fail the chrono with Exacts? This is what Andy Kays suggested could or will happen.

Why are there time penalties that affect all 4 shooters for timing, yet positional rules only one shooter gets a 0? If a rule is broken this should affect the shooter who breaks it, not 3 other people. I am sure no-one would not time deliberately but how would it look if someone lost a championship because a rival shooter forgot to time and they lost a target because of it, and then another person in another lane won by 1 target?

5) Also noted that we can expect uphill or downhill shots. Accepted. But we must ensure the course obeys WFTF rule 2.2 in that all targets must be visible from all shooting positions. We do not want to see disputes because of short shooters not being able to see targets downhill because the edge of the ground is in the way of targets.

We feel is too late to start changing rules which have already been agreed upon and are core WFTF rules. We discuss these matters each year, but every year there seems to be new rules which no-one is told about until it's too late.

Also please advise that m.woodhead243@btinternet.com is Mick Woodhead's new email address as EFTA Chairman.

Kind regards,

Rob Farnworth
EFTA Secretary

Stai ir sprendimas:

After consulting with Volker, permit me to attempt to clarify ….



1) Course layout. There are 3 courses, and this will not be changed. Once
again, we did not employ a team of contractual engineers to format our rules, and
therefore rule 2.1 has been read as “should “ and not “must”. There is a difference,
and this needs to be corrected and applied for 2013 championships + 1



2) Position. After a horrific event involving a gunman and a
school some years ago, the law was sharpened and is not comparable with the last
time we were in Germany in 2004. Understand also, that Volker states what is
required of a shooter at the firing line with regard to foot and muzzle position. He
has no option than to quote the this. Personally, I shoot off the knee with a TX200
and the muzzle is approx. 10 inches in front of my foot. I imagine the higher
proportion of shooters experience the same, more or less, being dependant of shooter
build and gun length ! Bear in mind the amount of standing and kneeling lanes where
for most the muzzle to foot distance will be within the tolerance. We do however
have a certain amount of lane configurations, and shooters with “unorthodox”
stances/shorter rifles which would fall in a category as Volker describes “There are
some lanes where this is impossible and such cases are treated as exceptions. In
such cases the muzzle must be in front of the ground marking (firing line) and the
trigger behind it” (which we’re all accustomed to). Reading between the lines, I
understand the statement to read “comply at every possible opportunity, and if it is
impossible for you then adopt the fall-back option of muzzle/trigger rule !”



Note. What definitely does not help anybody, and adds to an already complex
understanding of a translated script is the amount of hysteria posted on various
forums ! If your travelling members have an issue, then out of respect for the host
nation, take it up via one to one email. It might be an idea to remove any such
posts that just add confusion to the issue !



3) Safety flag/Visual “NOT LOADED” device. After scouting the internet –
this is NOT a problem ! make one ! buy one ! or carry your rifle in a soft
case/hard case from lane to lane. I start work on mine tomorrow !



4) Power testing. If your rifle passes the test with the BDS elected pellet,
FINE ! … move on ! If not, two of your own pellets will be weighed and tested …
this should prove OK, unless you yourself have made a drastic error in your rifle’s
power set-up.



5) Target placement. As per the rules… Targets shall be placed at distances of
between 8 metres and 50 metres from the firing line. All targets shall be clearly
numbered (per course from left to right) at both the target and the firing line.
Targets may be placed at higher or lower elevation to the firing line, but must at
all times be fully visible from all shooting positions and face the shooter at a 90°
angle (plus or minus 5°).



To conclude … penalties in some instances, may seem rather harsh, but the logic
behind this is that you are part of a 4 man squad (read TEAM) who are responsible
for ensuring i) your own safety ii) your partners safety – all 3 of them iii) fair
play by all in your group. In brief you have to observe and ensure that everything
is executed correctly !

Andrew Indris Kays

Pakutines naujienos : http://www.bds-field-target.de/wm2013/general.htm

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